Comments on: Deleting my MySpace profile and loosing faith in Facebook http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/ Psychology of Technology Blog Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cellphones, Cheating and Couples — Ramon Thomas Blog http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-2877 Cellphones, Cheating and Couples — Ramon Thomas Blog Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:31 +0000 http://netucation.co.za/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/#comment-2877 [...] If they have MySpace or Facebook profiles have a look at their Friends and also their Relationship Status. Be firm with these profiles [...] [...] If they have MySpace or Facebook profiles have a look at their Friends and also their Relationship Status. Be firm with these profiles [...]

]]> By: Art2 http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-2876 Art2 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:09:17 +0000 http://netucation.co.za/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/#comment-2876 Mike's comments are spot-on. You cannot invest "faith" in a web site. You can only make it work for you or not make it work for you. If you are critiquing, that's another matter, but you cannot critique only on the basis of it not doing what you had hoped it would do when it is obvious how much it is doing for so many people. LinkedIn works for me in many ways, and it is useless tome in other ways. That doesn't make it useless, but it also doesn't mean that it must work for others in the same way it works for me. Same with Facebook, same with any other social network, blogging platform, online bank, fantasy league or poker school. Mike’s comments are spot-on. You cannot invest “faith” in a web site. You can only make it work for you or not make it work for you. If you are critiquing, that’s another matter, but you cannot critique only on the basis of it not doing what you had hoped it would do when it is obvious how much it is doing for so many people.

LinkedIn works for me in many ways, and it is useless tome in other ways. That doesn’t make it useless, but it also doesn’t mean that it must work for others in the same way it works for me. Same with Facebook, same with any other social network, blogging platform, online bank, fantasy league or poker school.

]]> By: Q&A about the Future of Social Networking | NETucation Online Blog http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-2875 Q&A about the Future of Social Networking | NETucation Online Blog Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:00:08 +0000 http://netucation.co.za/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/#comment-2875 [...] of social networking sites are non-specific. If you have a Facebook profile, you probably have a MySpace profile and you use both. What do you make of the [...] [...] of social networking sites are non-specific. If you have a Facebook profile, you probably have a MySpace profile and you use both. What do you make of the [...]

]]> By: Phuti http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-2874 Phuti Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:31:06 +0000 http://netucation.co.za/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/#comment-2874 Your point acknowledged, but remember those who write about products regularly have responsibility to write ongoing commentary reports-I understand thats what Ramon was trying establish. However, I believe we cannot stop using any technology because of perceived (even those proven) dangers. All technologies carries the same positives/negatives, it is our responsibility to debate ways to improve security. Social networking tools are the future, it be political, economic integration or social. They should not be abandoned- Damaria Senne write a regular column (Double Take) "making social media work for you" http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/columnists/doubletake/senne080116.asp?S=Internet&A=INT&O=FRGN#1 Your point acknowledged, but remember those who write about products regularly have responsibility to write ongoing commentary reports-I understand thats what Ramon was trying establish.

However, I believe we cannot stop using any technology because of perceived (even those proven) dangers. All technologies carries the same positives/negatives, it is our responsibility to debate ways to improve security.

Social networking tools are the future, it be political, economic integration or social.

They should not be abandoned-

Damaria Senne write a regular column (Double Take) “making social media work for you”
http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/columnists/doubletake/senne080116.asp?S=Internet&A=INT&O=FRGN#1

]]> By: Mike Stopforth http://ramonthomas.com/2008/01/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-2873 Mike Stopforth Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:37:14 +0000 http://netucation.co.za/deleting-my-myspace-profile-and-loosing-faith-in-facebook/#comment-2873 I simply don't understand Ramon. You promote yourself and make money as a result of your many articles and statements on LinkedIn (which of course nobody has ever wasted time on), a social network for business sake. You even state you use Facebook for business. As a direct result of relationships I've formed and rekindled in Facebook I've generated significant business. So why is one social network ok and another not? Does it depend on how useful it is to you at the time? Staff today cannot be commanded and controlled. They cannot be tamed. Employees will waste time regardless of what we'd like - a natural response to the evolution of social technology we simply can't avoid. Should we be kicking against it or cleverly looking to leverage the trend? The novelty wears off and wears off quickly with these apps. Have you honestly never sung the praises of either MySpace or Facebook in a post, article or presentation? Have you never got excited about the networking potential of these sites? All that's happened is that you've lost interest and now want to condemn any usefulness left in them. You say "It’s a sad state the world has come to when virtual interactions (read The Matrix) is preferred to sensory stimulus from other people." but you also claim to be the <a href="http://www.datingbuzz.com/s/view/39287/n/0" rel="nofollow">quintessential online dating expert?</a> I don't see the logic? Sorry dude this is not a personal attack, but if you're going to position yourself as an expert on anything, you need to be consistent in your approach. Two questions: Let's imagine you'd had the opportunity to invest in Facebook at it's earliest stage, knowing what you know now. Would you have? If so, would you feel any differently than you do now? Lastly I must agree with you that social networking online should not entirely replace real life connections. But look at the success we've had with the 27dinners, Cerebra, etc. These are real life things that rely heavily on the assistance and support of digital networking platforms to succeed. I believe a healthy mix is the answer, not either or. I have built a career not on expertise or business savvy, but the ability to network effectively in both realms. I simply don’t understand Ramon. You promote yourself and make money as a result of your many articles and statements on LinkedIn (which of course nobody has ever wasted time on), a social network for business sake. You even state you use Facebook for business. As a direct result of relationships I’ve formed and rekindled in Facebook I’ve generated significant business.

So why is one social network ok and another not? Does it depend on how useful it is to you at the time?

Staff today cannot be commanded and controlled. They cannot be tamed. Employees will waste time regardless of what we’d like – a natural response to the evolution of social technology we simply can’t avoid. Should we be kicking against it or cleverly looking to leverage the trend?

The novelty wears off and wears off quickly with these apps. Have you honestly never sung the praises of either MySpace or Facebook in a post, article or presentation? Have you never got excited about the networking potential of these sites? All that’s happened is that you’ve lost interest and now want to condemn any usefulness left in them.

You say “It’s a sad state the world has come to when virtual interactions (read The Matrix) is preferred to sensory stimulus from other people.” but you also claim to be the quintessential online dating expert? I don’t see the logic?

Sorry dude this is not a personal attack, but if you’re going to position yourself as an expert on anything, you need to be consistent in your approach.

Two questions: Let’s imagine you’d had the opportunity to invest in Facebook at it’s earliest stage, knowing what you know now. Would you have? If so, would you feel any differently than you do now?

Lastly I must agree with you that social networking online should not entirely replace real life connections. But look at the success we’ve had with the 27dinners, Cerebra, etc. These are real life things that rely heavily on the assistance and support of digital networking platforms to succeed.

I believe a healthy mix is the answer, not either or. I have built a career not on expertise or business savvy, but the ability to network effectively in both realms.

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